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Rather than answering these individually over and over again, I'm just going to leave this here and add to it as needed:

First off!
- I'm not telling you which princess I'm doing next.
- I would appreciate it if you didn't tell me what character I should do next, or what you're looking forward to, or what character you hope I'll do!  It's very sweet and I definitely appreciate the sentiment, but consider the fact that you're something like the 400th person to tell me about Elsa, or Anna, or Merida- it's not adding a lot to the conversation.
- No, I'm not doing any Kingdom Hearts characters.  There's no particular historical precedent, so they don't really have anything to gain from this series.

Are you going to do Merida?
YES PLEASE STOP ASKING sobsobsob

Are you going to do Elsa and Anna?
ditto

Are you going to do any more pieces in this series?
Yes!  Let it be assumed that I will continue doing these until stated otherwise.

Which princess are you going to do next?
I honestly don't know until I start working on it, and I also don't like spoiling the surprise.

Can I make a request?
Please don't!  There are only so many Disney princesses, so requests come across as a bit redundant.

Are you going to do [INSERT DISNEY CHARACTER HERE]?
I'm researching all of the Disney princesses simultaneously, actually, since I tend to find reference for one while I'm looking through books for another.  As to the order in which I do them, it's completely up to my whim.

For further clarification, I literally have a list of the female (or otherwise) characters in the grand Disney pantheon- I know what my options are, I can promise I'm not forgetting anyone, and I don't have some master plan where I know which one's I'm going to be doing.

When are you going to do [INSERT DISNEY CHARACTER HERE]?
See above- I also don't have some master plan as to the order of these things.  I usually have a couple files going at once.

BUT MULAN ISN'T A PRINCESS.
Oh hey, look at that.

What about Alice/Esmeralda/Jane Porter and all of Disney's other non-royals (or, in Kida's case, non-official royals)?
They are not being ignored.  I have some weirdly obscure Disney tastes, though, so you might end up seeing a certain cowgirl on a catfish before you see Esmeralda.

What about the men/ancillary characters like Aladdin and Lottie?
I'm honestly not planning that far ahead, and I also have a lot of other non-Disney art projects that I'd rather spend time on.  Granted, Inca Emperor Kuzco would be...  Yeah.  Epic.  We'll see.

Are you going to do Anastasia?
I'm afraid not.  I never liked the film much (Let's ignore the fact that I own the soundtrack what of it SHUT UP DON'T JUDGE ME), and I want to stick to Disney.  It's what I grew up with.

Actually, I meant Cinderella's stepsister, Anastasia.
Oh!  Well then.  Possibly.

Did you know the original story of [DISNEY PRINCESS] actually took place in [YEAR] and/or [PLACE]?
Yes!  I've researched all of these to a fault.  If it honestly feels like I've missed something please do comment, but also remember that I'm basing these specifically on the Disney versions...  Imperfections and all.  Sometimes the date of the original source material is relevant (Pocahontas, Esmeralda, etc), sometimes it isn't.

No, but really, Princess Badroulbadour is supposed to be from China, and-
Yup!  I read that Wikipedia page too.

I disagree with your choice of time period, and only one of us can be right!
In the long run, these are compleeeeetely for personal gratification and enjoyment.  Sure, The Little Mermaid fits pretty well into 1837, but I don't like the '30's (seriously guys WHAT IS THIS NONSENSE: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia… ) and Ariel's legomutton sleeves are placed high enough to scream "Belle Epoche," so, y'know.  Loophole.  I'm thrilled to hear how other people interpret the films, just not to the point that I'm going to go back and change my art.

Well these aren't entirely period accurate, are they?
These are for fun.  Stylistic liberties have been taken.  If the films themselves are at about 50% historical accuracy, these are more around 85-90%.  Closer, but they're not diagrams.

Why are all their eyes closed?
I really like the demure sideways/lowered glance, so after doing Belle looking down at her mirror it seemed like another way to tie the series together.  I like that they're not engaging the viewer, that they're in their own world, but in the long run I just really enjoy drawing them!  It implies large eyes without looking too cartoony.

Are you doing these because you hate the original Disney princess dresses?  THEY'RE SO PRETTY WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM I BET WALT IS ROLLING IN HIS GRAVE
These aren't meant to be better, just more historically accurate.  Don't freak out.

How long does it take you to finish one of these?
Judging from my process videos, somewhere around ten hours if you don't count pauses, the earlier design process, etc. It depends- some of the princesses were pretty effortless, but it takes a lot more time and thought when I'm less familiar with the time period.

How long does it take you to research each character?
Hard to say! I'm researching a lot of these simultaneously, so these are now the result of research spread out over the course of months, or even years. It's a lot easier if I'm familiar with the time period- Cinderella and Ariel were proverbial walks in the park- but sometimes it's a solid week of reading books, looking up inspiration, doing studies. I put way more work into it now that I did back in the beginning.

Do you have any suggestions as to where I can research historical costuming?
I do, finally!  You can go check out the journal entry here shoomlah.deviantart.com/journa… , and I'll try to update it regularly.

What specific references were you looking at while designing Jasmine's costume?
Racinet's plates were a primary source of inspiration: www.darvillsrareprints.com/Rac…, along with paging through sites about Persian miniature painting and middle eastern clothing terminology. have handled her completely differently had I drawn her today, but these are the references I was looking at at the time.

Can I cosplay your costumes?
Please do, I encourage it!  All I ask is that I get to see photos of the final product. :)

Favourite Disney princess?
LILO I DON'T CARE IF SHE ISN'T A PRINCESS. Best all around Disney character. Ever.
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abz114 Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Love love LOVE these faqs.  You are so funny and I can't imagine the internet-related frustration you must have endured since you started this work!  I love every single one you post.  I'm excited for ALL of your future artwork!  And a dream of mine is to cosplay your Maleficent someday.  I cosplay her right now with a design that is inspired by Nebezial's art ( nebezial.deviantart.com/art/ma… ) and I LOVE your incredibly unique take on the character.  Anyway.... I just wanted you to know how much I love your artwork.  Your historical Elsa is currently the background on my work computer.  :D  Can't wait to see what you come up with next!  (No pressure though!! I understand us artists work on our own schedule! :P)
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TarneliaTriptus Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Lilo <3 \o/ 
Nice FAQ, congrats on the awesome works, and a deep thank you for the historical clothing guide.
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Shirogane1340 Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I argee with lilo! X3
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Mayonaka-Tora Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
Yay for Lilo
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redxheadxgurl Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
I LOVE this series. :) You are an amazing artist. :)
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Nipona-Marie Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
None of the links to buy prints work. :( Do you know why?
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hlootoo Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
PLEASE make a tutorial on the COLORING process. Your videos are entertaining but SO hard to follow! :(
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hugthedragons Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I, hugthedragons of deviantart, solemnly swear never to break and of these FAQ rules.

*high fives* GO LILO FANCLUB!
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Ameyal Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2014
Can you make.... hehe kidding, I absolutely love your pieces, from the artstyle, to the gorgeus dresses and expressive poses you gave them.
I don't particularly like some of the princesses, but the designs made me really feel their personalities from looking at them(Specially Tiana's , although I suppose that would be post-movie). Snow White and Aurora too, althought they are kind of bland in their movies, feel much richer with your visuals.

P.S. Lilo does rock the franchise, but Kuzco is THE best disney princess. Ever. 
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nosonia Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2014
While she probably doesn't fit any part of this category, will you ever draw Lilo?  I'd be really interested to see how you'd draw your favorite.  I know when I was younger I tried all the time to draw Jasmine, I imagine you must have at least attempted her before?
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shoomlah Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
sure!
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ValerieJackson Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2014
Hi! I absolutely adore your art, and I was wondering if I could -with credit- use it for a series of sigtags for the hogwartsishome sorting/land community on livejournal. It's completely fine if you don't want me to, but I would really love to use them. :)

Thank you!
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Old-Marcie1234 Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2014
I've finally figured out a basic muse/inspiration/thingamajig for Tiger Lily! Comanche! She's part of a derogatory stereotype of the Comanche tribe!
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NeverBeenDarkMarked Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2014   Traditional Artist
I barely use this site anymore but I just had to come over and express my love for this entire series. My cousins and I are all huge history nerds and we just adore all the artwork we see you make. I can't tell you how excited we get when a new design comes out. It's just fascinating to see your interpretations and I don't think there's a single thing we haven't loved (in fact, I almost wish I owned all of these dresses myself). I'm forever grateful for the devotion you have to this project despite the sometimes frustrating comments from people who feel entitled to demand certain things from you. Your depth of research and the things you come up with are inspiring. I'm even more in awe having read this to get more of an idea of how much work you put into each princess. Thank you thank you thank you from the bottom of my heart!
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IvyPearl Featured By Owner May 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Hiya, Im not sure if you've already answered this before, but what tablet and computer program do you use? Love your work! =)
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marximonto Featured By Owner May 6, 2014
sorry for asking to much!
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Vanilla-Fireflies Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hi Claire! I hope this isn't too much of a bother but I have to know - what are your brush settings or is there anywhere you've already posted them? I love the lineart brush you use in your process videos! Thank you :)
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shoomlah Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Literally the default theme! :)
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PlumeAnguis Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I know this is even related to you (and actually all the questions I wanted to know about your art are already made so xD) I have been searching for the same theme you have in your tumblr, do you know the source of it? Don't hit me please  D:
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Kagami-No-Kuni Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Do you have plans to do the female Disney Villains other than Maleficent?
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zebras-r-us Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2014  Student General Artist
oh okay uhm sorry
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shoomlah Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Again, I know!  People tell me this every day!  I really do appreciate the sentiment, it's lovely to see how many people are invested in this series, but you have to understand how often I hear people telling me this. :P
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zebras-r-us Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2014  Student General Artist
hi! I know you kind of answered this and I don't mean to be annoying or anything and i'm sorry if I am :S but it would be cool if there was a series for the men of Disney and for the side characters :) I don't mean like oh you should drop everything beause I want this, I jst mean yknow if you ever want to and find the time and inspriration and everything I think it would be quite interesting  :) but I absolutely love your historical female Disney characters :D they're so well done and have given me some ideas and inspiration :D :) keep on keepin on :)
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Eelea Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Also a pretty good way to see it.
But I fear that will never happen from Disney. It wouldn't let them gain the same amount of money they do now.
It's the label princess that bothers me somehow. I really really love their movies. But I don't like the merchandise around sidekicks they feel the need to put it in the movie. (I still wonder why there was a chameleon in Tangled.)
(I wish my english would be better. I could better explain myself. ;w; Sorry about that.)
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shoomlah Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I kinda think the opposite, that it's arbitrary to cram every female character into the princess mold- totally wish there was a way for Disney to have a line of awesome female characters without defaulting to the princess branding. :D
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Eelea Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I bet someone else said this before, but meh!
I wanna say it too.

I think every female in a major role in the disney movies is a princess.
It's a stereotype but I have the feeling that at some point every little girl wants to be a princess. (And some boys do want too. ;> )
Why shouldn't be the girl in the jungle book a princess? Or like you said Lilo. Alice, Esmeralda and the girl from Taran. :I I could go on like that for forever. xD

I don't like the new constellation from disney with their princesses. I bet they do that cuz it sells a lot better.


Oh and I love what you're doing! Keep on going as long as you can and want.
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Professor-R Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2014
May we draw the princesses in your historical costume designs, or is only cosplay permitted?:)
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FeistyEilonwy Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2014
My apologies!  Will be looking forward to your next uploads! :)
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toscapink Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2014
lilo is amazing and her sidekick is not an animal hes alien experiment 626 which makes them better than everyone
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shoomlah Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I apologize but this series is for me- People are not entitled to my decision whether or not to continue this series. Please think about these comments before you leave them- it's extremely rude to complain that an artist isn't meeting your every whim.
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Paige362 Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2014
I don't think your ever going to post merida :( but otherwise I love the art! 
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shoomlah Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Actually, now that I look at it, literally the second line item politely asks people not to ask about Elsa and Anna! I 100% appreciate your passion and excitement, but please try to read the FAQ in full before commenting. <:)
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shoomlah Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
You are the 500th person to tell me to do this, yes. As the FAQ states, I know what my options are! Asking/telling me to do your favourites starts to make this personal project feel like more of an obligation.
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FeistyEilonwy Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2014
Please add Anna and Elsa to your lists if you haven't already! :)  You're amazing <3
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shoomlah Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
As it says in the FAQ, the source material is of little concern to me unless it's specifically relevant (Tiana, Esmeralda, Pocahontas, etc.)!

I'm not sure if I can explain the process, you just spend enough time ensconced in historical clothing that you can start to pick up the relevance of necklines, hemlines, men's trousers vs. pantaloons vs. culottes, closures, hairstyles, waistlines, etc.
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alphabetsoup314 Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
First off: Love your interpretations of the princesses! The designs are much richer visually, while keeping the feel of the original (though I can understand simplicity in the movies, it would be a pain to keep animating Jasmine's henna designs over and over again). 

Second: I'm curious about the mental process that you use to pin down the time period. Do you generally prioritize the original source story, or the visual clues in the film? If you use films, what clues do you use to figure out the time period/location, and more importantly, how do you search for that clue? For instance, I would not have thought to look up 'leg of mutton sleeves' in reference to Ariel's poofy sleeves, because I am not familiar with the term. Also, I've noticed a general lack of consensus on when and where Little Mermaid takes place, so I wouldn't have even been able to pinpoint a country of origin or time period. How would you deal with a situation like that? Sorry, a lot of questions I know. 
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madnessism Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Professional General Artist
You don't like Anastasia or 1830s fashion? I don't think we can be friends. :( But honestly, though, as a lover of Disney princesses and fashion history, I love the illustrations. Maleficent is most winning. (P.S. I found your work from a thread on Reddit discussing the historical accuracy.)
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Nortya Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Yeah, I knew that too.

I was looking for where each piece was from as obviously Disney can be a little loose in their interpretations. Some are pretty obvious, like Beauty and the Beast, some are less so.
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elektraeriseros Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2014
Personally, Kuzco's my favorite Disney Princess. Hands down. Bar none. :)
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elektraeriseros Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2014
The story behind Rapunzel is German in origin.
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Nortya Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Oh yeah, I know that, but I figured if you're drawing on Regency period you're looking at England.
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shoomlah Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Rapunzel is from a made up country, they mention it several times in the film!
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Nortya Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Sorry to bother you, but is there any chance of getting a list of locations for the Princesses? I just wasn't sure where Cinderella is. I'm assuming that Rapunzel is England, but some of them are a little vague for me.
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shoomlah Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Actually, Kuzco would be wearing Inca clothing! Emperor's New Groove is set in a stylized Peru, not Mexico. :)
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pneuma-of-fresh-air Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2014
You have NO idea how happy your comment regarding Kuzco made me. I love that movie, quote from it ALL the time. He would look pretty fantastic in Aztec gear.  So...if you do ever decide to rework some guys, I would cry tears of joy if one of them was Kuzco.
Also, your art is fantastic. I really love how you don't let the original Disney art take away from your own personal style, it's refreshing to see it drawn so well in such a unique way. So thank you!
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LadyKylin Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2014
I've seen a very black girl cosplay as Sailor moon where everyone is very very white.
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